Look, before continuing, let’s make one thing clear: maintaining the Snyderverse could’ve been possible, especially with Warner Bros. and DC embracing the multiverse concept. For whatever reason, the studio decided against it. Consequently, the “Restore the Snyderverse” movement has had an impact that might prove cataclysmic to the future of the DCEU.
The Snyder Cut
There’s no point beating around the bush here. Director Zack Snyder was done dirty by Warner Bros. with regards to the whole Justice League debacle. It’s common knowledge that he lost control of this film to the suits, but the studio refused to take any accountability for its meddling or treatment of the filmmaker. Justice—pardon the pun—was served in the form of the release of Zack Snyder’s Justice League, which proved to be a far superior release than the theatrical version.
In Warner Bros.’ eyes, the release of the Snyder Cut would’ve been the closing of a chapter. It would give the fans what they wanted and allow the studio to move on with its new vision. Yet, almost immediately after the film’s release, the calls began to restore the Snyderverse.
The Two Types Of Fans
Much like with any fan campaign, though, there were two sides to it. One was a bunch of people who thought it’d be cool to see a filmmaker’s vision continue and posted their message of support. Nothing wrong with that. The other camp featured the mouth-breathers that only know how to deal in absolutes. They promised to boycott and trash any DC project that didn’t feature Snyder’s name on it. In other words, they’re spoilt brats who have nothing better to do with their lives than fight about fictional characters and produce crusty socks.
These numbskulls cannot accept that variety is the spice of life and proceeded to review-bomb The Suicide Squad for daring to be—gasp—a non-Snyder film. (Though, his name still appeared as a producer because of previous deals.) It’d be premature to say that this was the sole reason for the film’s underwhelming box-office performance, as the pandemic and HBO Max simultaneous release strategy played their roles too. But when you see a smear campaign trying to drag down a movie before it’s even released, it has an effect.
Unfortunately, idiots influence other idiots. Like watching mob mentality in action, they join in on “the fun” and realise they can wreak havoc under the banner of a cause. However, they’re rebels without a cause. By choosing sides here, they’re effectively doing to other filmmakers what they accused Warner Bros. of doing to Snyder. They’re not allowing other visions to come to fruition due to pure selfishness and childishness.
The unintended consequence of this, though, is it creates more unnecessary drama for the DCEU. Almost since it began, the universe has been plagued by scandals and bad publicity. It’s gotten to the point where the average viewer sees the DCEU as a mess, regardless of any positive strides it takes. Then, when news breaks of “fans” review-bombing The Suicide Squad and threatening boycotts of The Batman, the reality is most people don’t want to be a part of this community. It’s as if this universe has more baggage than a single episode of The Bold and the Beautiful.
Warner Bros. vs The Snyderverse
While the calls to restore the Snyderverse might’ve come from a good place, there’s one aspect of it that’s sticking a knife in the rest of the DCEU. There’s going to come a time when Warner Bros. will wonder if all this drama is worth it. Sure, if the films make money, the execs won’t have a care in the world, but if they become investments with low returns, well, don’t be surprised if there’s no DCEU to speak of in a few years.
Again, there’s nothing wrong with telling a studio what you’d like to see—but in a civil way. You can also be a Zack Snyder supporter and still be excited to see what Matt Reeves puts out. There’s no reason to pick a side here because it’s only going to end in tears. And for the love of all things mighty, stop review-bombing things because you’re bored. Take a walk outside and sniff something else besides your underwear.
Tell us, do you think the “Restore the Snyderverse” movement has harmed the DCEU? Sound off in the comments section down below.
Excuse me.. But can u tell me any other way to make WB feel the impact besides boycotting their films? If we shout Restorethesnyderverse, they will just turn a blind eye and ear, but if the movie underperforms they have to take it seriously..
#RestoretheSnyderVerse
Just sounds to me like you’re defending a studio that is ignoring a huge chunk of their fans and brushed under the rug a toxic environment led by Joss Whedon. The studio needs a shakeup from the top down and hopefully the new regime will actually listen to their fans. I’ve never seen a situation where a company has literally 100% knowledge that fans want a product and will succeed and still refuse to deliver it specifically because of pride. It’s nuts.
If I’m toxic for trying to save art then so be it.fanbases are dying because of corporate media works like this. But luckily, they are dying too for the same reason. Stay toxic my friends, this war is far from over
Justice League Snyder Cut has been the only movie that could hang with the Marvel movies. Taking that away to only make the so-so movies they always have made would be stupid for DC. They should at the very least let Zack finish JL2… DC is a hot mess and I’ve been a diehard DC fan for 45 years. So sad ?
Well u are right on the case where other people fail to appreciate the creativity of other producers. But Zack synder version is not a cause or reason why other Dc project are performing terribly. As a Nigeria based fan of Zack synder works especially his work on Justice league I felt that it would be fair that WB execs would have allowed Zack to round off what he started. After all most comic lovers would love to see alternate version of their favorite character used by various producers. So in all Zack synder works is never the reason why other Dc project are failing. Thanks and live long.
Snyder’s JL is probably still the most hyped and loved movie in the entire DCEU right now, the logical route to take would’ve been to ride that wave out. Just think what the 1st Avengers movie in 2012 did for the MCU, that movie practically transformed the MCU into the behemoth it is today. The SnyderCut could’ve been that for the DCEU in 2017, but this DC execs are so terrible at their job they just wanna outright copy Marvel every time and that leaves them making poor choices. Matt Reeves’ The Batman is practically gonna make the Batman seem like James Bond, Bale, Affleck, Pattison, all within decade, not to mention Keaton, Kilmer, or Clooney. Why not just stick with Batfleck for a decade, give the fans one face and enough time to get attached to? Give us a coherent linear universe? A proper DC saga? Funny that even Snyder’s original plan was borrowed by Marvel – making a two part movie where the heroes fail in the first then make a come back and final stand in the 2nd. Look at where the MCU movies are today, where even mediocre movies like Thor 2 and Captain Marvel can easily do 800m plus. It’s really a sad time for DC fans.
Refusing to pay theater ticket money for any new films until they agree to restore the Snyderverse is perfectly civil. Even if it won’t make any difference, it’s not like I’m gonna spend money to see films I’m not at all interested in regardless.
It isn’t the Snyder fans ruining the DCEU. It is the constant reboot of the same movie every 10 years. I’m 50 and have seen like 8 Batman reboots and 5 Superman. There are more than 2 DC Superheroes ffs.
“ Sure, if the films make money, the execs won’t have a care in the world, but if they become investments with low returns, well, don’t be surprised if there’s no DCEU to speak of in a few years.”
You pretty much answered yourself there in regards as to why the “snyderverse” is no more..
Let’s be honest here, Snyder’s movies all underperformed when taking into account the budget, and the importance/significance of the properties being used. Do you really think a studio is going to willingly keep spending hundreds of millions of dollars just to see a minimal return of profits??? No. That coupled with the subpar scripts/acting of Snyder’s films and lack of cohesive storytelling is what doomed the Snyder verse.
Only reason people liked Snyder’s cut of justice league is because it is more “flashy” and the “romanticism” of it being a “Snyder film”, but objectively speaking, jw’s JL actually has a more fluid and cohesive story. So many things that happened in SCJL where there to make sense of a convoluted plot, mainly because he didn’t know how to transition from one point to the next. It’s almost as he just started writing the script and thought, oh, this would be cool, and jotted it down but failed to realize he had to do something to lead into it or justify it.
I mean, to make it easier for y’all, just check out MauLer’s ZSJL: unbridled rampage video!!!
I am 69 and have been a DC fan for most of my life. Why the comics and the TV and the movies all seem disconnected I do not understand. At least the multiverse had a reason but Crisis ended the multiverse.
Ever since Keaton put on the black suit DC live action films have gone in a direction that is appealing to a generation of people that have grown up to embrace the Batman Arkham game atmosphere, but it is so separate from the source material that is fun and hopeful and appealing that it will continue to struggle. Snyders cut was ‘meh’ – FYI the Snyder cut being better than the theatrical release? It was literally 2 movies in length. Not surprising it achieved more character ‘development’. At this point I am only coming back because of my connection to the characters and the universe from the comics (From 30 years ago). In general , the live action productions have been forgettable as they are too far removed from the source material.
yeah i think the movement has harmed the DCEU, mostly because the snyderverse sucked. Snyder is probably the worst director working today.
Yes and no, yes because of the stupid jackasses that you mentioned that will harm a movie cause snyders name isn’t on it, comic book movies are fluid, you can change whatever you want as long as it somehow correlates with what was cannon in the comics, and then there’s the no part cause aquaman is still the same guy which is cool, WW is still the same girl, just wish they’d stick with the same superman and batman cause they were both really good, but once again if they embraced the multiverse then maybe they’re still there, but people like the rock playing black adam using his influence to make sure his character is still in continuance with the snyderverse, that can save it more accurately than some fb page of nobodies that cry about everything u der the sun
Considering how bad the latest Suicide Squad was, it may be better to let the Snyderverse die if that’s the quality of material WB intends to release.
reviewbombing the Suicide Squad……… yeaaaaah….
Claims of reviewbombing ar hrown ou absurdly often these Days.
i will never pay to watch a DC movie, animation or TV series again until the snyderverse is brought onboard. I will actively derail any article, thread, social media campaign for DC. NOthing will happen until the studio execs at WB are replaced. I can wait.
You anti-fanbois need to be quiet already. You aren’t clever, you aren’t cool, and you are just making fools of yourselves. Just close down your browser and go eat a snicker and a hotpocket in the safety of your mother’s basement.
Well, I disagree with review bombing, but WB is not actually listening to it’s DC fans. Instead giving us crap like WW 1984. Yes I watched it, twice. The second time to make sure my opinion was solid. Yup it sucked. I just saw James Gun’s Suicide Squad. It was entertaining and better than the first one, but by the soundsbof it, WB finally learned it’s lesson and kept it’s hands off of Gun’s vision for the movie. Man of Steel, B vs M, justice league were rampant with interference. I would place Zach Snyders League above Age of Ultron, so yeah it was pretty good. And yes I did like ZNJL better than Gun’s SS. But i will still watch Gun’s Peacemaker series. And I will go see the Rock’s dc movie because well, it’s the Rock, but after that I am done with WB’s DC. WW84 was total let down, so not interested in any more WW films, Robert “I hate to work out” Pattison as a tough as nails batman ? Don’t make me laugh. I don’t like him as an actor and after seeing him in multiple films I now avoid movies he is in.. So boycotting The Batman has less to do with the DCU for me but I still am not wasting my money watching Pattison try to act tough. Easy pass. Oh, and they have made most of their CW series so “woke” they are not even enjoyable anymore. You can make shows inclusive without shoving it down people’s throats. So the best thing WB could do is replace all their executives that keep makibg such poor decisions.
Totally agree with the writer
If this does not stop the won’t be a DCEU in future
the problem with fans and fanboys are they’ll put up with rubbish because they are fans and support the characters and the company. What does that say about the company when they actviely do everything in thier power to derail the stuff you love? AS far as im concerned WB/ DC have never understood its IP. its being helmed by people who have no love for the backstory. So what are we supposed to do just take it? No. we’re all tired of that There;s plenty of other stuff to spend my money on. I love marvel stuff, they actually listen to their fans and have peopel at the top that know what the are doing. So let DC burn. i dont care if the DCEU falls apart.
I’m a devout Snyderverse fan … To a point. Definitely not to the extreme you described above. My question for WB powers that be is this … What’s the point of a “multiverse” if multiple possible universes/realities (and subsequent representation in cinema) are not possible? It’s like this – Michael Keaton is the epitome of Batman. Has been always will be. Christian Bale was awesome too. But for my buck, Batfleck is the epitome of Frank Miller’s The Dark Knight. Doesn’t take anything from Keaton or Bale’s run as Batman. “The Flash” movie just proves my point. Different Batmans exist, different realities.
Again, what’s the point of a multiverse if the the WB suits can only think of the DCEU as linear? It seems more than apparent to me that WB is not the least bit interested in giving the fans what they want with regard to the DCEU, as much as they are interested in crushing Snyder, regardless the cost.
Just sayin.
Wow. What a way to lump everyone in a fanbase together, and insult them based on a toxic minority and a bunch of bad actors that get off making fans of the DCEU look even worse.
Thanks for literally taking part in a toxic campaign meant to fan the flames even more. Even James Gunn said that he’s received more support from the Restore The Snyderverse crown than any hate. As for the toxic minority: Every fandom has them. You can’t fight fire with fire. If anything is destroying the DCEU, it’s undercover haters like you, and your continued hatred on the Restore The Snyderverse crowd. So, kudos for continuing your toxic efforts.
You misconstrue points made in the article, which praises the Snyder Cut and criticises the treatment of Snyder by Warner Brother, and may be arguing from a misconception that it is attacking you personally. You claim that the article ‘lump[s] everyone in a fanbase together, and insult[s] them based on a toxic minority.” As you can read in the paragraph quoted, nothing could be further from the truth: “Much like with any fan campaign, though, there were two sides to it. One was a bunch of people who thought it’d be cool to see a filmmaker’s vision continue and posted their message of support. Nothing wrong with that. The other camp featured the mouth-breathers that only know how to deal in absolutes.” If you identify with that former group of supporters for more Snyder films in the future, like me, then this article’s criticisms were not aimed at you, and specifically went out of its way to make that explicitly clear.
“‘but if they become investments with low returns,’ then the studio will be forced to make a product that the viewership wants to see.” There i fixed it for you. This part is the whole point of fans speaking out. Complaining but still supporting the productions that you are given is akin to ordering a coke but when you get water you say “Well I asked for coke but that’s cool too” when it most definitely not. The author here clearly does not understand the point of movements.
Stop blaming Snyder for WB’s misfire.
Is this a serious article did you really compare people who want the universe restored to a bunch of people who jack off constantly? Thats disgusting writing there bud
It’s not about boycotting dceu, it’s about boycotting wb. No safe way to circumvent this unless we relents.
At least that’s what the extremists thought they can achieve. I still think the extremes are just a fraction of the numbers. The way the can’t drag it down below 90 in tomatoes is a solid proof.
TSS underperformed I think due to hbo max and pandemic. Oh and, no China release.
The best thing from DC right now is the shows. Stargirl is fun, but Superman and Lois is STELLAR. An absolute must-watch, especially for Snyder fans. Superman done right.
I think that the the restore the snyderverse movement has brought on some bad seeds. But The Suicide Squad was and ok movie for the first half then got weird and dumb for the second half. It was the factor of a poorly written script. Am I going to see The Batman?? Heck yes! It’s freaking Batman! Same with The Flash and Aquaman 2!! People should just enjoy the movie for what it is or just make a simple comment of why they didn’t like it not bash It and the cast members! Henry Cavil is the beat casting for Superman since Christopher Reeves!!!!
The DCEU has had serious problems outside of this Snydercut drama. Aquaman and (the first) Wonder Woman were good films. Everything else has been pretty disappointing, almost cringey to watch. I like Margot Robbie’s Harley Quinn, and I hope the new Suicide Squad isn’t the trainwreck the first attempt was… but I just can’t muster enough hope to pay the first-run toll when there is so much that I can watch (and re-watch) for free.
I’ve seen it, and trust me, it’s not great. It’s….average. It’s like MCU but with gore and strong language thrown in. Pathetic story, ugly shots and a laughable, really LAUGHABLE villain.
Save your money. Don’t see it. Don’t trust reviews online.
Snyder is all grim style and no substance. He doesnt understand how to make Superman or Batman compelling or even interesting. Make DC movies fun like Shazam or the DC tv properties or even darkly humorous like Suicide Squad. Find someoone new to helm the JLA.
I disagree. The reason I enjoyed Snyder’s dc movies is because they felt grown up, dark and gritty. Yeah shazam was good, but it was also appropriate for the character’s age. Try to do that formula with Batman and JL just would not work well. Give me different than Marvel’s PG-13 take on things.
This article is a fabrication! Nice try though! LOL!
lmao whoever wrote this article must be working for warner bros. they’re stupid for not wanting the synder verse to happen. i don’t understand how you have millions and millions of fans begging for specifically that, and they still say no. clearly it’s what we want to see and that’s supposed to be all that matter
I believe that everybody at Warner Bros needs to get fired. They need to bring in new, vision-inspired execs with the cojones to do what is right and stop meddling in everybody’s projects because it’s not what “they” want to see. The Snyder cut of Justice League was a vastly superior movie in every aspect compared to the Joss Whedon version and if the studio wants to at least attempt to properly compete with Marvel then they have to do things the right way. There are plenty of people that enjoy DC movies, but studio interference makes them be less than what they should be. You have to walk before you can run. The current WB execs seem to think they can just fly right out the womb. Bring back the Syder-verse and do the movies properly.
The support of a lying domestic abuser hasn’t helped either… Oh yeah the cyborg debacle too?
Your pitiful. Your bias and disrespectful. If you can’t see the point of both side please stfu! Your calling actresses and etc names over nothing. Snyder’s cut was great and far superior than the justice league and it showed what direction Snyder wanted to go, so people are going to want the Snyderverse back. We are really seeing how bad the dceu is.
How about the suicide squad just isn’t a great movie…. let’s call a spade a spade.
I believe fans want the stories to fit the level of the original stories, without raising any flags of any movement, or wanting to please the spoiled and boring generation we currently have (The Giant Difference Between Wonder Woman vs WW1984).
Snyderverse was so successful with the fans because it really showed what we wanted to see, as well as Dark Knight, Watchman, V for Vendetta and others.
I believe if Warner leaves the final decision with the Director on how the film will go from start to finish, we will save more rotten scenes of today’s spoiled kids.
The author of this article is a fool. The ONLY thing that matters in the box office is the $$$. When people stay home guess what happens? What a moron.
The Snyder Cut was by far, much more entertaining than Suicide Squad helmed by James Gunn. The only positive note from 2021 Suicide Squad being the sequel made up for the earlier failure, neither events have any impact on the status of the Snyderverse.
The only morons and idiots in the DC community are the fan boys like the author who wrote this garbage article. Don’t like the Snyderverse? Too bad.
What do you mean “too bad”? It’s over. The Snyderverse is done. So more accurately – you LIKE the Snyderverse? Too bad.
Move on, sport. And maybe grow up while you’re at it.
Zack Snyder’s Justice League is the epitome of the difference between “better” and “good”. It was definitely far, FAR better than the theatrical mess. But was it….good? Is it a top 10 all time super hero movie? As a 50+ year old lifelong DC fan, this is an easy no.
The smartest thing DC could do right now is use Flashpoint to reboot the entire DCEU, get rid of the stylized instagram filters that absolutely plague every movie, and use the 90 years of source material to tell good stories.
I totally agree. I loved Snyder’s movies but I get that a lot of people didn’t. So I just want them to have a complete reboot and stop trying to copy Marvel. Marvel is not the epitome of superhero filmmaking. If you read Snyder’s plan for JL2 and JL3 and the general DC universe, then I’m sure that JL3 based on the story would have DEMOLISHED Avengers: Endgame. WB has made a giant mistake by ruining The Snyderverse, and at this point, even if they decide they want to restore it, which is unlikely, it’s already too late. I say they combine The Batman and Flashpoint to reboot it and set the new universe on Earth-2 a.k.a Pattinson’s Batman’s universe. What do you say?
I ADORE DC. I like the content from the MCU, love it too. But I’m a DC fan through and through.
The only DC content I watch now that hasn’t disappointed me is Superman and Lois. It’s a CRIME that people don’t watch that show that much because it’s really CINEMATIC level and amazing. It’s not like the other shows from CW, The Flash, Arrow etc. It’s like watching a movie because of that HBO Max budget. The story is amazing, great music, stellar acting, and fabulous cinematography that would make Snyder proud. Do check it out.
#lettheSnyderversedie
Seriously, M.O.S was a big letdown and BvS……..
NO. Walter Hamada has ignored the Comic Readers and Fans of DC for too long making what he and other execs at Warner Bros. want rather than listening to the sources of the company’s true income: Movie Go’ers Comic Book Readers!!! If Hamada can’t do the job the fans want, then it is high time that Warner Bros get a CEO/CFO/CMO/ & Every Other Warner Exec that will make the movies that the real audience WANTS TO PAY TO SEE!!! If it’s the SnyderVerse then by all means, Let Zack Get Back To WOrk on Two More Films Before They Lose All Of Those Actors!!! Pay Them PROPERLY, NO MORE ABUSIVE PERSONNEL IN THE Chain Of Producers/Directors/ like what they experienced on Justice League: Episode 1.
Review bombs? Lol DC wants to catch up to marvel so bad they cut corners and do almost nothing interesting. They should have stuck with there shared universe idea and doubled down. Instead they use cheap name mentions and body stand ins and instead of improving and learning they bail out of commitment.
They tried to turn 2016 suicide squad into guardians of the galaxy and messed that up so they hired the disgraced director recently fired to make the guardians movie they wanted.
I want them to atleast make a sequel (with snyder) to JL and I enjoyed the suicide squad.
But you can’t blame a couple of review bombs when in reality ALOT of ppl including myself are disgusted with James Gunn. Have you seen the “party” photos? Sickening. If it wasn’t on hbomax I wouldn’t have went either to see it.
And ofcoarse the hbomax and new variant of covid. This wasn’t a must see and “multiverse” is a cheap way of saying “no more shared universe”
They just don’t make you want to care about their movies. And I say that as someone who enjoyed their movies. When they canceled the “snyderverse” or a shared universe they made each movie a road that leads to nowhere.
Black Adam may be the only shot they have of any type of cross over but again… I won’t rush to see black adam and shazam fi- oh the story is done.. ok next dc movie
100% Agree!!!
Yes it absolutely has, there is just a nasty section I call the SnyderCult that are very toxic and create an atmosphere that no new fan would ever want to be a part of or even just deal with
Thank you for your views but it’s not needed we are toxic fans and we will boycott anything and everything until snyderverse is restored
Punctuation maybe?